Showing posts with label Throwback Thursday. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Throwback Thursday. Show all posts

Thursday, October 15, 2015

TBT - What do we mean by Rugby "Union"? (July 2012)

This week for our visit the archive vault here at Harpin Manor we have a rant of mine from 2012.  I saw Felipe Contepomi speaking at a Heineken/Newstalk event last night in 3Arena and it reminded me of how annoyed I was that his involvement with Stade Francais meant he had to miss Argentina’s historic debut in The Rugby Championship.  And three years later, the uncoordinated nature of the world rugby calendar seems to remain unchanged as well as the“cartel-like” nature of the Tier One nations.

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In rugby terms, what Sonny Bill Williams plans to do to earn a crust for the next while makes no sense whatsoever. Children in New Zealand dream of being good enough to one day wear the silver fern at Test level just the once, let alone be good enough to be the presumptive starting 12 as he clearly is.

Yet in money terms, his move makes absolutely perfect sense. We can vilify his agent Khoder Nasser all we want, but is he really the big bad wolf in this fairytale? In any other realm of business wouldn't we just say he negotiated the best possible deal for his client?

And as I look around the headlines on this Monday morning, it's as if the rugby world in general is going “Ah, yeah, well, what can you do?” The way I see it, there's plenty.

In actual fact it's not really this Sonny Bill news that has me up in arms. Even though the media is reporting it to death today, the deal has actually been known about for weeks, since no doubt Nasser orchestrated a leak or six to help along his negotiations.

In a few weeks, the inaugural “Rugby Championship” will kick off. No doubt this will be spun as an historic event for the game of rugby union, where it will brag that it is now “progressive” enough to “allow” Argentina to play in an annual tournament of significance.

Sure, when you look back over the code's history, this will indeed be a big deal. But when the Pumas start their first match on August 18th in Cape Town, they will most likely be denied their marquee player Felipe Contepomi, which is utterly ludicrous. The IRB claim to have done everything they can to ensure the best players will take part in the new four-nation tournament but clearly this is not the case.

Test rugby should be first and foremost for the players. I'm sorry, but this is pretty much a no-brainer. Sure, the bread and butter money comes from the clubs playing from week to week, but the best way to market the sport globally is via the internationals.

So it stands to reason that if the game's best players are being lured elsewhere when the major international competitions are being held, there is clearly something wrong, and does this mean the sport should just lurch on as it has done shrugging its shoulders or does it need to take some significant action?

I believe the transition from the amateur era to the professional one was completely botched. Not that it was ever going to be easy, mind you. But the structure of the game as it stands today only makes sense when you realise the foundation it was built on.

Rugby is not a world game as it is organised right now. It is a sport for nine nations, with one being reluctantly added this year. The rest of the planet are expected to accept this status quo and send a few teams to the World Cup every four years to make up the numbers and then get back into their box marked “minnows”.

And I almost wouldn't mind if the nine/ten nations acted with any sense of uniformity to bring the game forward. Instead we have individual unions, all terrified of giving up their power, all doing their own thing, pretending to be united under bigger organizations Six Nations Rugby Ltd, ERC & SANZAR, with the IRB supposedly being the glue that holds it all together.

Simply put, if Felipe doesn't play in the Rugby Championship, there is no glue.

We can't just blame the blazers, either. As fans from the “elite” nations, we must take some ourselves, happy as we are banging on about the sport's history and traditions, all the time assuming that there are certain systems and formats that are “untouchable”.

Heaven forbid the Six Nations considers promotion & relegation or even takes place at a different stage of the season. And imagine the ridicule someone would get suggesting that perhaps Lions tours weren't all they're cracked up to be since they only feature five nations (not to mention just two actual teams) at a time.

Or what about the row over the Heineken Cup … fans from the Celtic Nations were proud to learn of their unions standing up to the big money clubs from England and France, but if the Pro12 goes on dominating the tournament for the next few years as could well be the case, will it really have the same value?

The structure (or lack thereof) of the European rugby season is a constant bugbear of mine, but it's only a small part of what's affecting the global game. The way I see it, we have two choices : go back to being an amateur sport or take our heads out of the sand and be willing to restructure things in such a way that the best players when fit can take part in the matches that matter.

That won't happen as long as the unions continue to be allowed dance to their own tune. The IRFU for example have done an excellent job working within the confines of the status quo since the game went pro, but even here the cracks are beginning to show whenever contract deadlines draw near.

Meanwhile the Welsh seem happy to let the regions stagnate while their top players parlez the Francais...a policy that certainly hasn't seen cobwebs grow in their trophy cabinet so it's not like they're going to change anytime soon.

And don't start me on England! Pardon the pun but it was a bit “rich” of their clubs to be moaning about how the Heineken Cup is structured when they have such a hard time working out who is allowed to play in their own Premiership!

So to summarize, the way things stand, there really is no rugby “union” to speak of. I love the game to bits and will always enjoy watching when its being played at any level (I'm only on this rant because I have no Leinster/Ireland match to review!) but it's in the days that fall in between when I read stories that make me concerned for the future.

And of course it's not just the news of Sonny Bill & Dr Phil that has me ranting...but even if I were to make this article into a novel that included things like poor referee development, unions having control over discipline for their own players and the return of 3-match summer test series to name but a few, they would still fall under the same general heading.

I firmly believe the money to keep Sonny Bill in an All Black jersey is out there. It's just that in return, rather than make a song and dance about letting one country join the SANZAR/Six Nations table every decade or so, we need to say that if the big bucks are in countries like Japan, the raw talent is in countries like Georgia & Samoa, and even the fan base is in countries like Madagascar, then surely they can play too.

I also firmly believe that there are people involved in running the game smart enough (don't laugh!) to sit down and work out a calendar that allows players play for their clubs regardless of hemisphere AND win international caps when they matter most.  Who knows, maybe even some of the precious traditions can be protected too.

Rather than living in constant fear of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, maybe we can put both in a new tub that won't leak so much. JLP

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ABOUT THE TBT AVATAR

Found the picture on a now-defunct (appropriately I suppose) site called Rugby-Pioneers.

Apparently it is a postcard with a photo taken from a match between France and Wales in 1911.

Thursday, October 08, 2015

TBT - Brendan Grehan on Jamie Heaslip (from Jan 2013)

This week’s dip into the HoR archives for Throwback Thursday features a piece on Jamie Heaslip when he was appointed Irish captain for Ireland’s 2013 campaign.  It wasn’t to be our finest Six Nations it’s true but despite all that has happened since, when trawling through online commentary there still seems to be an undercurrent of the same “bombast” to which Brendan alludes.

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I WAS mildly surprised by some of the bombast that surrounded Jamie Heaslip's appointment as Captain of Ireland for the Six Nations. One radio station that should know better really stuck their oar into deep mud, describing O'Driscoll as having been "dropped" as captain.

Eddie O'Sullivan was later talking on another radio station, owned by the same chap, about how it would have been good for O'Driscoll to see out his last Six Nations as captain. Note that I refer to O'Driscoll by his full surname. I love to hear when fellows and rugby femmes start trouting on about "ROG" this "Dorce" and my all-time favourite "Axel". They have a name, use it.

I may be an old romantic and God knows I was getting misty-eyed at Donnybrook when Old Wesley U21 Premier XV beat Greystones 20-14 last Sunday. It was particularly satisfying given that we were savaged by Greystones last October on a balmy Sunday evening in Dr. Hickey Park.  Zack Jungman's try was particularly good.

There can be no room for sentimentality for choosing a captain and in his heart of hearts, O'Driscoll would like to concentrate on his own game.  My dad has always said that O'Driscoll is the greatest Irish player and he is and still is a devotee of Dr.Jackie Kyle.

Getting back to the new incumbent. Heaslip, like his predecessor, lives his life in the glare of the camera and smartphone. He seems to enjoy it and it does rankle some people, not me. Rugby players for all their athletic prowess will never earn the same as their cousins in Association Football and Heaslip is entitled to use his fame to generate as many benjamins as he can.

As it is all about the green, in both senses of the word.  He does seem to ruffle some feathers. Was it his venture into the restaurant business?

Waiting for the 4 bus on O'Connell Street after the Exeter game a few months back, A Leinster fan, flag, jacket, tracksuit bottoms, beanie hat, little cuddly lion toy, Leinster pins, Leinster water bottle and a phone cover, told me "He's never been the same since he opened that restaurant".

Heaslip scored the try that set our 2009 Grand Slam campaign and he is a product of my beloved DUFC, the oldest continuous rugby club in the world.

One would like to think that some of the College Park mud has rubbed off on him. My minute concerns about Heaslip were put to rest by a former international, coach and TV pundit who told me last October that Heaslip is a "free spirit" but he has always wanted to captain Ireland.  I think he will make a great Captain. He will lead from the front, like his predecessor.

There is only one command in the Israeli army: "Follow me".

The DUFC that Heaslip played for and the one I had a minor involvement with are completely different animals. With the advent of professionalism, the University teams had to pull up their socks literally and they have gone down the elite road.

The powers that be in Trinity, UCD and so on will tell you that they have "social" teams. Surely a player of any level should be able to play and wear the colours of their University. Some of my happiest times in Trinity were spent supping on a lemo in the Pav after training as the hockey players wore their bandannas. What is it about hockey that every team, both male and female, must always have a few bandannas in their line-up. It's oh-so rock and roll for possibly the most foreign of all the foreign games.

The sad thing now is that generations of players are being lost to the game. If they are not elite, they can drift through university, possibly without any athletic involvement at all save for working on their guns for their night-club visits.  I believe that all the Dublin clubs and beyond should be targeting the Universities and colleges for players who have fallen through the net.

They probably will have played at schools level so the basics are there already.

Good luck to Leinster tomorrow and to all the Irish teams playing in the Heineken Cup this weekend.

Brendan Grehan is a journalist

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ABOUT THE TBT AVATAR

Found the picture on a now-defunct (appropriately I suppose) site called Rugby-Pioneers.

Apparently it is a postcard with a photo taken from a match between France and Wales in 1911.

Thursday, October 01, 2015

TBT - If the Internet picked the Ireland team... (from Nov 2013)

It's time for part 2 of our new Throwback Thursday series, where we re-post offerings from years gone by that could have some relevance today.


This time we're going to the "Harpin2" blog we ran from June 2012 to June 2014 and a post from @curates_egg published in the week leading up to "that" clash with the All Blacks in 2013.  As well as providing an accurate observation on internet opinion, the author also offers a Joe Schmidt XV which is scarily close to the actual RWC2015 one - bar the post-BOD centre pairing which, let's face it, nobody saw coming.




The following selection is an Irish XV to face New Zealand on Sunday based on comments on various Irish media sites (irishtimes.com, thescore.ie, independent.ie, examiner.ie, rte.ie) and tweets over the past 3 days.

I have tried to provide the logic given online for each selection. A quick glance would show the IRFU maybe got the wrong man in appointing Joe Schmidt for the Ireland job and should, instead, have hired the Internet.

1. McGrath - Healy should be dropped because he is too old and isn't performing to his top standards.

2. Cronin - Offers more than Best and Best should be dropped for underperforming.

3. Archer - Mike Ross had a bad game and has struggled to adapt to the new scrum rules, so the Munster substitute tighthead should start.

4. Tuohy – POC has passed his sell-by date and we need to move on to the next generation.

5. McCarthy - Toner is too tall and too ugly, and we don't watch Ulster, so McCarthy gets the nod, even if his conditioning is seriously off.

6. Coughlan - Heaslip needs to be dropped, so Coughlan moves in to play in a position he is unfamiliar with to accommodate this.

7. O'Mahony - moves to 7 to enable Sean O'Brien to move to 8, as Heaslip needs to be dropped.

8. O'Brien - an easy selection for the Internet, which loathes Heaslip's headphones and jeans. Heaslip is rubbish and does nothing. He needs to be dropped. That Cardiff guy (who was shown the door from the Leinster Academy and nobody paid any attention until someone mentioned his name in a comment somewhere) is the long-term answer but, until then, O'Brien should play at 8 (even though he hasn't done in 2 years), so we can rid Ireland of Heaslip.

9. Marmion - he is the future, so start him against the All Blacks.

10. Jackson/Madigan - either because Jackson stands too deep, kicks too much and can't place kick or because Madigan is a flashy Dan and (buzzword alert) has no game management.

11. Trimble - even before McFadden's injury, he should've been dropped because he is not 'international class' and it doesn't matter if he was our best performer against Australia. Saw a couple of commenters suggesting O'Halloran on the basis that youth should be given a chance...against the All Blacks.

12. Marshall - no odd logic can be found online to support his inclusion and no other options are really mentioned.

13. Cave - despite not even being the first choice 13 for Ulster, he must start because BOD is passed it and is an embarrassment (despite playing well in his other 2 games this year).

14. Bowe - because he is international class no matter how badly he plays for Ireland.

15. Henshaw - because Rob Kearney hasn't played well since 2009 (the European player of the year award was nonsense).

Here is the team I personally think Schmidt will select and why:

1. Healy - one of our least-bad performers on Saturday. Despite McGrath's major leap forward over the past 9 months, Healy is still number one and always ups his intensity for New Zealand.

2. Best - despite continuing line-out problems, he is the best of the pack and his loose play is normally excellent (last week an exception). Cronin is a good impact sub.

3. Ross - struggling with the new scrum laws but his problems last weekend were very much linked to the second-row. Archer is not the answer - based on last weekend's performance and the fact he is not even first choice at Munster. Hopefully, Schmidt will put Fitzpatrick on the bench: he has done well against New Zealand before and is better than Archer (Moore is not ready for this level).

4. O'Connell - our captain now for better or worse. Put in perhaps his worst ever Irish performance last weekend but showed for the Lions over the summer that he can still perform at the highest level. Needs to bring his intensity™ to the game this weekend and Schmidt will be hoping 'Paulie' will.

5. Toner - Schmidt likes him as he is a big target in the lineout. Personally, I would pick McCarthy to make our scrum a weapon. The selection of Toner and O'Connell will underpower the scrum.

6. O'Mahony - still adapting to Schmidt's system but looks keen to do so: needs to focus on basics at ruck-time though.

7. O'Brien - no alternative to picking O'Brien at 7 with the injuries we have but Ireland need to sort out what exactly is expected from him. As Lions tour showed, is still a world class operator when given a clear role.

8. Heaslip - thankfully, all his coaches value the enormous breakdown work Heaslip has to get through to compensate for us having no other backrow who does it. A no-brainer for Schmidt...much to the chagrin of the Internet selectors.

9. Murray - Schmidt's call on Reddan didn't pay off. Murray has not looked sharp this season and his box kicking has been awful at times but there is no alternative. Looking like a problem position for the 6 Nations.

10. Jackson - The loss of Sexton is a massive and fundamental blow to our chances. Schmidt will recognise we need to establish a platform and Jackson is our best option for doing so. Harsh on Madigan but probably the right call.

11. DKearney/Earls - toughest one for Schmidt to call. If Earls is fit, he has to slot in for the injured McFadden. Kearney has been one of the brightest outside backs in Ireland in 2013 but a big ask against New Zealand.

12. Marshall - one of Ireland's only players to play well against Australia (with McFadden). Schmidt used his experience logic to justify selecting D'Arcy outside Jackson for the Samoa game but hopefully will not fall into the same trap, and will keep an eye on the future.

13. O'Driscoll - very short of game time but there is literally no alternative outside centre in Ireland at present, in spite of what the eminent George Hook believes. A lot of expectation and pressure on Payne for next year though.

14. Bowe - put in his worst ever Irish performance against Australia but remains one of Ireland's frontline internationals. Schmidt will be hoping he can put the aberration of Saturday behind him because we are getting very thin in the backline.

15. RKearney - Schmidt will give him every chance to prove his fitness because the alternative doesn't even bear thinking about. Henshaw has looked totally out of his depth with each chance he has been given for Ireland. If Kearney does not make it, it would not be a total surprise to see Madigan selected there.


@curates_egg : Expat Irish rugby fan living on the continent but regularly travelling to Leinster and Ireland rugby matches. Strong believer in rugby as a family game and a fair sport.




ABOUT THE TBT AVATAR

Found the picture on a now-defunct (appropriately I suppose) site called Rugby-Pioneers.

Apparently it is a postcard with a photo taken from a match between France and Wales in 1911.

Thursday, September 24, 2015

TBT - I've solved the RWC turnaround problem! (from Sep 2011)

Been meaning to start a regular “Throwback Thursday” slot for a while now - we have a lot of posts from other sites (like the old “Harpin2) we’d like to transfer over here and this seems the best way to do it.

 

These will mostly involve contributions from guest posters, but to kick off we’ll go with this one I penned during the last World Cup in 2011.  It was quite an important post as you can see, for not only did I solve the World Cup turnaround problem, but also the game’s blazers clearly stood up and paid attention ;-)

 

PS - I updated the “pretend” draw to reflect the current World Rugby rankings

 

PPS - It won’t surprise you to know EFS is still tweeting on this issue!


 

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I've solved the World Cup problem! 

OK maybe I haven't.

 

BUT...I have discarded the stupid comments and taken the valid ones from Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu's tweets and tried to make them into a decent solution.

 

Here's an idea how to change the World Cup.

  • Expand to 24 countries
  • Adopt the “cross-pool” fixture format currently used in the LV= Cup.
  • Still have quarterfinals as playoffs using Rugby Champions Cup method (6 pool winners plus 2 best runners up)
  • Offer automatic qualification for next RWC for, say, the best 16 overall to keep more matches relevant.

What I believe this format will achieve :


    1. It means every team plays in every round so no need for midweek matches and thus more equal turnaround times. (12 matches in each round could be played 3 each Thu, Fri, Sat & Sun)

    2. It brings the bonus point into play a lot more than it does with the current format

    3. It prevents situations like one where a team might “prefer” to lose to get an “easier route” to the final, because you should never be sure who plays who in the quarters until all the pool matches are played.

    4. It allows four more “lower tier” nations to get top tournament experience, plus this way they should play one match against a team ranked near them.

    5. The top seeds can be scheduled to play their opponents in order from worst to best so, theoretically anyway, the matches should get more exciting as the tournament progresses (ie less chance of an 87-0 blowout around the halfway stage).

 

I've taken the current rankings and come up with a fictional draw by way of an example...


 

POOL A

POOL B

POOL C

POOL D

POOL E

POOL F

NZL

AUS

ENG

WAL

IRE

RSA

SCO

JPN

SAM

FJI

ARG

FRA

GEO

TGA

ITA

USA

ROM

CAN

HKG

CHI

RUS

SPA

NAM

URU

 

I think the cross-pools should go  AvF  BvE  CvD

 

This means that Ireland's four matches would be against Australia, Japan (yes, I know!!!!), Tonga and Chile and everyone else in our pool would also have to play them.  So although our main pool rivals would be our old World Cup buddies Argentina, we wouldn't actually play them BUT we'd be under pressure to get bonus points in all our matches to be sure and not only stay ahead of them, but also remain in contention for a "best runners-up" slot just in case we need it. 

 

And what's more the format only adds 8 extra matches to the tournament, so it should be manageable.

 

Not suggesting this is a sure-fire system, just trying to get a ball rolling.   Does the process need tinkering with at all?  Have you a better idea? Let's be 'avin em then! JLP

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ABOUT THE TBT AVATAR

 

Found the picture on a now-defunct (appropriately I suppose) site called Rugby-Pioneers.


Apparently it is a postcard with a photo taken from a match between France and Wales in 1911.

Thursday, June 25, 2015

TBT - When the Lions played the "E-boks"

Yes, we're starting up a "Throwback Thursday" slot and yes, it may seem like we're jumping on a bandwagon that loads of other sites seem to be doing these days BUT...the truth is we had a weekly "archive" slot going long before TBT was a thing so we'd prefer to say we're "reviving" rather than "jumping".

THIS WEEK'S TBT : 

LIONS-13 Emerging Springboks-13


This week we're turning back the clock to 2009 - to be a match we covered in June, it kind of had to be a Lions tour and on June 23 the "midweek" team played out a 13-13 draw with the "Emerging Springboks".

Seemingly as I wrote up the match I thought it was hilarious that a team would use the name "Emerging" - little did I know that almost exactly six years later I'd be writing about an Irish version.

I guess this leads me to the question...did any of the Springboks who played on that wet, windy day in Newlands ever actually "emerge"???  Here's the lineup...

Emerging Springboks: Zane Kirchner, Luzuko Vulindlu, Deon van Rensburg, Morgan Newman, Bjorn Basson, Earl Rose, Jano Vermaak; Wian du Preez, Bandise Maku, Werner Kruger, Steven Sykes, Wilheim Steenkamp, Dewald, Potgieter (capt), Jean Deysel, Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Tiaan Liebenberg (for Maku, 52), Pat Cilliers (for Du Preez, 64), Franco van der Merwe (for Sykes, 64), Jacques Botes (for Deysel, 64), Heini Adams (for Vermaak, 64), Willem de Waal (for Van Rensbug, 52), Danwel Demas for Basson, 73).
A couple ended up at Leinster with varying degrees of success, Wian du Preez played for Munster, but overall I think it's only Mr Vermeulen who can say he "truly" made it.

Back on the Lions side, to put the game in context we had just lost the first test so we were looking for options to try and level the series at Loftus Versfeld.  And one of those options led the sides out onto the pitch, one Ronan O'Gara.
...though it angers me to agree with Stu Barnes, he does have a point when he says that there’s a serious argument for leaving ROG out altogether and having Hook on the bench, for the Welsh factor, the fact that he’s proven on tour he can nail pressure kicks, but most of all because he brings a different style of offence should the Geech need to mix things up late on.
I'm not altogether sure what I meant by "the Welsh factor" - perhaps it was because Mike Phillips was the presumptive starting 9?  Anyway...it's probably best that we don't dwell over what actually went on to happen in the second test.

Another test position that was up for debate was on the left wing, and here the Sky commentator many love to hate did manage to get my goat...
Barnes did piss me off at one point when Luke missed a tackle and he said “Oh, now THAT’S a mark against Fitzgerald”. Bloody hell, man – how many marks have been against Monye even BEFORE he got picked to start in Durban?
 In the end it was a try from Darwel Demas (never really emerged at the highest level unless you count 15 appearances for Aironi) brilliantly converted from the touchline by Willem de Waal (also spent time in Italy, in this case Treviso) which pinched a draw at the death.

Stay tuned for another throwback down memory lane next week.

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