Showing posts with label Wolfhounds. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wolfhounds. Show all posts

Saturday, January 25, 2014

Saxons-8 Wolfhounds-14

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NOT BURNS’ NIGHT

I may have joked about it at the time, but I can totally understand why the Sky commentators went to such great lengths to point out the gulf in experience between these two sides, even before kickoff.

Even though officially their coverage was as much for Irish viewers as it was for English, in terms of actual subscriber numbers you’re talking about an even bigger gulf between two groups of people.  So given that a losing England team could possibly trim the ratings down the line, I guess the spin was required.

But if we’re playing by those rules, I would also point out that you can count the number of times Ian Madigan, Felix Jones and Craig Gilroy have played together competitively on the fingers of one finger.  This means that we can easily explain away the English try courtesy of Anthony Watson and write up this match totally based on the two Irish-dot-downs which were backed up by a mesmerizing defensive display credited with a whopping 192 tackles by the stattos.

Obviously I’m being a little bit tongue-in-cheek with my opening remarks, but only a little bit.  The truth is that “gulf in experience” thing also applied in the same fixture last season, plus it must be noted that a feature of Saxons teams over the years has been an ability to hit the ground running in matches like this one.

One of the differences this time around has been that the whole “hitting the ground running” thing is also a feature of what I guess we will have to call “Schmidt-ball” (as opposed to “Warren-ball”, but “Joe-ball” doesn’t work for me) and on this occasion, it wasn’t perfect, but achieved the desired result.

The basis of this style of play is of course the defence.  But there’s no point in holding out the opposition for 80 minutes if you’re going to score feck all points yourselves, and given that you need players to tackle as hard in the last minute as in the first, the ideal time to put those points on the board is in the opening half hour of play, and that is precisely what the Wolfhounds did at Kingsholm.

It was our first attacking set-piece, a lineout just inside the English 22, where we struck first with just 4 minutes on the clock.  After a routine take by Dan Tuohy and a well-constructed maul, the English halfbacks Simpson and Burns were more Homer & Montgomery than Joe & Freddie in their coverage allowing Isaac Boss to sail past them and over the line.

The score remained 7-0 until the 23rd minute when Watson took full advantage of the interception I mentioned earlier…in reality there really was no excuse for the mixup among the Irish backline - Madigan perhaps put too much on his pass, or perhaps Jones could have been standing deeper, or even with all of that perhaps Gilroy could have done better.  But given how the full match went I’ll take that one error.

Because it was defence that won the day, and although the Saxons did pretty well overall themselves for albeit half the time without the ball, we were far better at cashing in on the slightest of opportunities.  Box-kicks were mostly accurate and backed up by good kick-chasing, our series of pick-and-goes at high speed in the second half would have been highlight-reel stuff if only capped off by a score, and then of course we had the opportunistic Madigan try.

I thought the issue the ref had with his tap-and-(stretch to catch and then)-go was whether or not he was taking it from the mark, but the TMO chose to just look at his touch-down and despite the presence of several defenders a combination of momentum and sheer will gave the Leinster man the score.

Meanwhile the Saxons were finding themselves thwarted again and again and again by mistakes, turnovers and a dreadful night at the office by Freddie Burns at probably the last ground he’d want to playing so poorly in an England shirt given his future club plans.  The slip out of his hands right at the death really could have happened to anyone as the conditions were atrocious, but in other ways it really did look like the script had been written for it not to be his night.

But as I suggested earlier, it wasn’t a perfect display by the Wolfhounds, and much like that match at the end of November I’d rather not have to reference anymore, it really looked like we were doing everything we could to throw it away at the death, and this area of decision-making late in tight matches could well be my biggest concern going into the Six Nations.

Jordi Murphy’s cameo didn’t get off to an ideal start as he gave away two penalties in the space of a minute, but the thing about Ireland’s defence on the day was that it was well able to withstand assaults from regular play all the way up to its own tryline, and despite some impressive carries & offloads by the Saxons late on it was Jordi who forced a key turnover on 76 minutes to allow us to clear our lines.

Maybe I’ll forgive Kieran Marmion for his box-kick at halfway as the clock read 78:30, but when the Saxons came back at us only to knock the ball on, why we didn’t just take the scrum I have absolutely no idea.  Even if we hadn’t been doing well in the tight I would have gone for the chance to kill at least a minute on the clock.

Instead we gave the ball back to them and even though they collected the ball in their own 22 with 30 seconds left, thanks to impressive subs like Miller and Dickinson they got it to a stage where but for Freddie’s butterfingers we could have snatched yet another defeat from the jaws of victory.

Still, it wasn’t to be and overall it was a performance much more full of positives for Joe Schmidt to bring forward.  Here he had a match-day 23 pretty much of all of whom seem to be buying into his brand of the game, and considering how punishing the Six Nations schedule of 5 tests in 7 weeks can be, we could well be counting on many of these guys in the near future.

Other area I disagreed with Sky was in man-of-the-match…it was a good try for Boss and he did some good things around the park, but there was the odd boo-boo that could have cost us and since it was an award that couldn’t be given collectively to our backrow who were superb at the breakdown, I’d have probably plumped for Madigan.

Did Tommy O’Donnell do enough to dislodge Chris Henry from the 7 jumper on the night?  Probably not..though in my preview I spelled out why I think he should get it anyway.  Ruddock was superb at his blindside role, maybe not so much at his captain’s one.  As for Copeland, where although I understand the argument for James Coughlan (who was himself captain for this fixture last season don’t forget) I think it was more important long-term to give the Cardiff Blue this outing and he did well with it.

One very interesting position for the Wolfhounds was 12, with Schmidt (I know technically Foley was coach but I believe he held the true reins about as much as I believe Rob Howley held the Welsh ones in the last Six Nations) trying out two men at inside centre who wouldn’t normally play there.  He is known to be creative around this position, having converted young Jordan Coghlan from flanker while at Leinster, and certainly on the defensive side of things both the 12 and 13 channels were solid throughout despite the chopping and changing.

So there we have it…the build-ups are over and it’s time to start looking ahead to The Big Show which starts next weekend.  Plenty of time for previews during the week…I’m wondering though about the point of this particular fixture down the line.  What if instead the Six Nations put out reserve teams on this weekend against the Six Nations “B” teams like Georgia and Romania? 

Just a thought, though to be thinking like that would suggest the Six Nation Unions had the best interests of pan-European rugby at heart in their “grand scheme of things”. 

Anyway, let’s just say I’m feeling good about our chances in this year’s tournament.  Though I did say pretty much the same this time last year…but don’t worry, I won’t be going all “George Hook” on you just yet.  Let’s get behind em, I say. JLP

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Friday, January 24, 2014

The Pagano Preview Jan 24-26

Every Friday I look ahead to the weekend's rugby for the Irish provinces and beyond. 

Over the years we Irish rugby fans have gotten used to having at least some provincial action to cheer every weekend throughout the season…with the exception of this one which I call “limbo week” between the end of the HCup pool stages and the start of the Six Nations.

Part of it was one of the busiest news days of the season as on Thursday we learned of things like yet another Irish Lion choosing home over Toulon, while another Welsh Lion doing the exact opposite.  And as for that other Toulon-bound Welshman who put his foot down at the RDS, he got himself a 12-week vacation for his trouble.

What we’re left with this weekend is a patchwork selection of matches, with the Irish highlight being the Wolfhounds’ single outing of the season.  Since they are away in Gloucester, maybe back here we can get ourselves out to a game down at our local club?  Check here to see if there’s an Ulster Bank League game near you.

Elsewhere we have the English and the Welsh continuing their “LV= in” of a competition, while over in France, they put their players through the paces of a round of Top 14 action…all their players except the national squad, that is.


Friday, January 24

Top14

Stade Francais v Castres Olympique, 7:30pm

“Second plays third” makes this one appear interesting when you put it like that, but when looking ahead to a match in this league your first task is to wonder if the away side is going to give a damn, and the percentage answer is “non”. Stade by 14

LV= Cup

Scarlets v Gloucester, 7:30pm

Saturday, January 25

International friendly

England Saxons v Irish Wolfhounds, 5pm

Tommy or Chris for the Irish 7 jumper?

I’m a bit giddy as I prepare to give my opinion on the above question, since for once I am free of the shackles of accusations of provincial bias.  If Seanie is fit, he plays.  He’s not, so we have a Munsterman and an Ulsterman vying for the role, so the only way I could make it look like my blue goggles are welded to me head would be if I suggested Jordi should leap-frog the pair of them!  Don’t worry…I ain’t going there.

If the jumper were to be awarded for position in the “queue”, it would have to be Henry.  But if we’re basing our selections on that, we’d be talking about keeping Donncha O’Callaghan in the squad so he could get himself to 100 caps, because we can’t begrudge him reaching that mark either.

But a test side can’t be selected for that reason.  Particularly this test side.  November was a warm-up…this is the first competitive outing for the Joe Schmidt brand of Irish rugby.  For me, it comes down to a question of do we want TOD’s ball-carrying ability to start or do we want CH’s tackling and for me it’s the former.

That’s not to take anything away from Henry - he was outstanding against Leicester and has been unlucky with injury around test time.  It’s just the phrase “deserves his shot” doesn’t wash with me at this level, and I reckon his use to this team, and the way Joe Schmidt likes to play the game, would be better suited to coming on for the final quarter, when we would hope to have a lead we need to defend.

On the negative side while all 7s not named Ruchie tend to attract attention from refs, I fear Chris  would be more likely of the two to do so (particularly someone like Joubert who we have twice this 6N).  Add to this the fact that I love chucking in at least one newbie every year to throw off the opposition, and Tommy’s my guy.

Having said all of that, I still reckon Joe will go with Chris, and TOD would need a man-of-the-match display at Kingsholm to have an actual shot at starting.  But best of luck to the two of them; it’s great to have such great options at our disposal to keep Seanie’s jersey warm! (Sorry, the blue goggles came back for a moment)

That’s a lot to write about one position, and this match certainly isn’t all about our openside flanker.  How about Ian Madigan at outhalf.  He surely can’t hope to get near the test side unless Sexton comes a cropper in Paris, so he’ll be viewing this as a rare opportunity to start at 10 and he’ll need to take it.

There are also opportunities for Ulstermen to impress…in the pack Rob Herring certainly has shown the ability to get ahead of the Munster duo in the pecking order while at lock, both Henderson and Tuohy have what it takes to play at the top though only one has youth on his side.

Interesting call at 12…Darren Cave?  As much as I hate to go there…talk about your face not fitting?  It will be interesting to see how well he links with Madigan though I suspect it will be on the defensive side of things where he and Henshaw will be tested most.

Skippering the side there is Rhys Ruddock, who despite the recent news of SOB & Jamie staying is clearly seen as a long-term option for Ireland, and he his game has certainly gone up a gear this season.  Also of course we get a look at Munster-bound Robin Copeland in Irish green filling out the back-row, as well as Jordi off the bench.

Always hard to make a forecast is matches like this…there’s the shop-window element plus the fear of bans & injuries…I’m taking this to be a low-scoring affair in which the home side will prevail.  Saxons by 6

Ulster Bank League, Division 1A

The second half of the league campaign gets underway on Saturday and tie of the round has to be Young Munster v Tarf, where the Cookies need a win to stay in touch with the leaders and they are the only side with a realistic shout of preventing the title going to Leinster once more.  At the bottom Garryowen won’t find it easy to notch their first win of the campaign as they face the champions on the Aviva back pitch.  Another match with relegation undertones is at Ballymacarn Park where Hinch will want to make home advantage count against Dolphin.

Ballynahinch v Dolphin, 2:30pm

Cork Constitution v UCD, 2:30pm

Lansdowne v Garryowen, 2:30pm

Old Belvedere v St Mary’s, 2:30pm

Young Munster v Clontarf, 2:30pm

Top 14

Racing Métro v Toulouse, 1:55pm

I couldn’t give a damn who wins or loses this game.  It’s only significance for Irish rugby fans is that it is the one match on the calendar where we see the true implications of Sexton’s move to the Top14.  Do we blame him and his agent or the IRFU if something happens to him?  Hard to tell.  But for 80 minutes or at least until ROG can persuade his fellow coaches to take him off (he will try, won’t he? or at least “donner un kick in the hole” if they won’t?) we’ll be watching every bit of contact from behind the sofa.

Biarritz v Oyonnax, 5:30pm

Bayonne v Clérmont, 5:30pm

Montpellier v Bordeaux-Begles, 5:30pm

Grenoble v Perpignan, 5:30pm

Brive v Toulon, 7:35pm

Challenge Match

Saracens v Natal Sharks, 2:30pm

It’s a shame to see a northern-hemisphere club rely so heavily on South African players for success.  But enough about Ulster…what about Sarries? ;-)

Only messing…this match has been shoe-horned into the calendar by BT Sports and Nigel “My Wray Or The High-wray” and with the club also having a home match on the Sunday, for me it shows just how stubborn the English clubs can be. 

I really, really, do hope the Sarries fans show more support for the youngsters lining out against Newcastle what a powerful statement that would be.

LV= Cup

Sale Sharks v Worcester Warriors, 2pm

NG Dragons v Northampton Saints, 2:30pm

Harlequins v Leicester Tigers, 3pm

London Wasps v London Irish, 3pm

Exeter Chiefs v Ospreys, 3pm

Bath v Cardiff Blues, 3pm

Sunday, January 26

LV= Cup

Saracens v Newcastle Falcons. 3pm


Be sure and enjoy your rugby this weekend wherever you are. JLP

Monday, January 28, 2013

All bark and no bite?

In her latest piece for HoR2 Kate McEvoy questions the necessity for Ireland to keep Wolfhounds

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This article is not so much a screed on my opinion on one of the rugby issues of the day, as per the norm, but more looking at an internal debate I've been having with myself. Unlike prior articles it lacks the clarity of a definite opinion à la Campese-gate., for the past two weeks or so I've been pondering – What are the Wolfhounds actually for?

It feels like the Ireland A or Wolfhounds squad is falling between two stools. As pointed out by Whiff Of Cordite, our nearest neighbours and only competitors of this season's fixture list, the England Saxons, place an emphasis on youth and development. The average age of the squad who lined out on Friday was less than 24. Our most recent selection included Isaac Boss, Andrew Trimble & Tom Court. Even with with the disparities in our playing pool & resources size, it's worth taking a moment to consider that.

Isaac Boss has captained the Wolfhounds, had a successful provincial career with both Leinster and Ulster, including two Heineken Cup winners medals with the latter and gone to the 2011 RWC. He was joined there by two of Ulster's current form players and Grand Slam winners Andrew Trimble and Tom Court. That was in fact Trimble's 2nd World Cup and he has an impressive 49 caps to Court's 29 with Boss bringing up the rear with a respectable 15.

I understand the wisdom of mixing experience with youth to a certain degree but there seems to be a school of thought that says, particularly in the case of Trimble and Court, that this was an opportunity for them to play their way into the senior side, which was a successful endeavour for the latter but not the former. But did Friday's match really have any effect on Trimble's fate? How will playing a one-off fixture with a scratch team tell Declan Kidney anything about these players that we won't have gleaned from training or their provincial performances? Is it really fair?

The squad also included one Luke Fitzgerald, who's been in sparkling form since he's returned to Leinster but after coming back from long term injury, he is short on game time, the same of which could not be said for the other three. For me, his selection made sense based on his particular circumstances. I should add as a caveat that due the dearth of any modicum of comfort for non-flyers at Dublin Airport & a delayed flight meant I didn't see the majority of the game. Seriously lads, would a TV have killed you? Forcing people to hang out in McDonalds is possibly a human rights violation. But I digress. Despite missing the match I think I'm still entitled to ask would we not have been better served in the long run to see Kieran Marmion or Denis Buckley included in the squad ?

The larger issue in my mental debate here is what exactly is The Irish Wolfhound squad for? With just one fixture currently listed against the Saxons and the discontinuation of the Churchill Cup, where does the Ireland A set-up go from here? I'm not opposed to development of the international game, far from it & think the inclusion of the US & Canada in the Pacific Nations Cup is a positive move. But it does limit opposition for the Wolfhound setup.

However from a domestic viewpoint, with the continuing growth of the provincial set-ups and their academy systems, together with the British & Irish Cup, providing a platform for young talent, is there still the same need to call up these promising youngsters to the A squad? My gut feeling is that there is still a place for the Wolfhound squad but firstly we need to decide what it's for – is it a last audition before the big show, is it for developing up and coming players, is it for game time for returning veterans, is it for rewarding the unlucky few such as captain James Coughlan who in another era would have surely earned a full international cap by now? It's not to say it can't be all of those things, although I'm not wild about the first, but surely, we need to be looking at more than one fixture a year to glean anything of real benefit from an Irish Wolfhounds call up. What competitive options do we have? What resources can be channelled into the Ireland A coffers? What players will be best served by inclusions? How can the senior squad reap the most benefit from the development side? I don't have the answers to these questions but I look forward to continuing my inner debate with input from you all.

Kate McEvoy : Munster fan in a sea of Leinster blue. Raised on a strict diet of Bective Rangers. Earliest childhood memory is stud marks in the muck. Former hooker for a father & a mother with an eye for a forward pass bordering on freakish . Often to be found down Monkstown RFC/ A & E on account of the exploits of the better half. Best rugby memory, Toulouse main square, May 24th 2008. Epitaph will read “Knew a lot about rugby for a girl.” Can be found tweeting optimistically at @ImKateMc

Friday, January 25, 2013

Wolfhounds-10 Saxons-14

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[update January 22, 2014] This week’s trip into the HoR archives shows just how much can happen in a year…after this match (though not necessarily because of it) I was convinced we had a serious shot at the Six Nations Championship.

HOUNDED OUT

I had a good few tweets on my timeline directed at me this morning with the message : “What highlights?” which baffled me for a moment.

Then I realised that I have my twitter account linked to both the IRFU and Leinster rugby pages so when they post, my account automatically tweets the link. In this case it was a link to the “highlights” from this encounter, which as many people point out, were few and far between from a spectators' viewpoint.

But of course we have to factor in the nature of contests like this one. It's not your standard game of competitive rugby, it's 30+ individuals playing in a shop window to demonstrate their ability to play in the big show.

And another thing we must factor in is the mentality of the Kidney coaching staff. The “conservative” description may have been done to death but that doesn't make it any less of a reality. So when you look at this selection you have to assume that the only way they will get a look-in at Six Nations time will be after injuries no matter how well they shone in Galway.

So rather than do a straight writeup on the match I have chosen to go player-by-player...

  1. Kilcoyne – I have been impressed with him since the B&I Cup semifinal at the RDS last year, he has a great attitude and in many ways the only thing Cian Healy has on him is a couple of extra years' experience. That's still enough for the Leinster man to keep the green number one jersey, but if I were Church I'd be peeking over my shoulder.

  2. Sherry – I admire his confidence but unlike Kilcoyne I'm not sure he has the ability to back it up, certainly not enough to threaten Best or Cronin anyway.

  3. Bent – The last thing Ireland needed right before the 2013 Six Nations was to see an Irish front row dominated by an English one, especially when the tight-head was flown halfway round the world partly due to what happened at Twickenham last March. In fairness he did offer some resistance like at the end of the 1st half but he seems very naïve to opposing props playing silly beggars at the hit. Still, it seems we have gone “all-in” with the guy, and since there's no way Mike Ross is going to last 80 minutes for 5 tests, we're just going to have to hope he finds his feet at this level pronto.

  4. Stevenson – very unlucky to be pinged for holding as we pushed for a second try, a call which got the Saxons out of jail big time. Spent the game in Toner's shadow literally and figuratively.

  5. Toner – gave away two first half pens in succession which signalled the end of our purple patch, but though I'm normally hard on him I'm seeing this as a positive. Imposed himself on the game a lot more than he usually does and that's good to see. Needs to be spending time with the Irish set-up as his line-out presence can't be ignored.

  6. McLaughlin – delighted he got his name on the score-sheet and played his part in an impressive back row performance overall, though I can't see the “elite” players being ousted any time soon by anyone who played in Galway.

  7. O'Donnell – Led the team with 12 tackles and he is definitely putting his name forward.

  8. Coughlan – Being named Wolfhounds captain always strikes me as a kiss of death for your chances in the full squad, and of course the naming of the full Test skipper didn't help him much either. He has an amazing work-rate and is a born leader, but were Heaslip to get injured would Coughlan be brought in or would O'Brien move to 8? I'm inclined to think the latter, but it will certainly be a travesty if he is fit in June and doesn't get more than one start on the North American tour.

  9. Marshall – a quiet outing for him but I wonder was this more by design of the coaching staff than his ability. Whenever I have seen him play well for Ulster he has shown creativity and initiative around the base and that's clearly not what Ireland want from a number 9 these days.

  10. Jackson – I'm going to be tough on Paddy. Maybe you'll think that's somehow provincially motivated, but I was tough on Sexton when he was coming through the ranks. Jackson played the conservative 10 role to a T on the night, no doubting that. But looked at another way, he is his club's starting out-half, he has started a Heineken Cup final, and he has captained his country at Under-20 level, yet was still out-performed by George Ford who can say none of those things. Much like Bent, I haven't seen anything that would make me confident to see him come on at any stage of a Six Nations contest, but I hope to be proven wrong.

  11. Fitzgerald – personally I think he would be better served staying with Leinster until the end of the season then play his way back to test level in US & Canada. But unlike players in other positions he's a great option to step up if others are ruled out.

  12. McSharry – The heir apparent to Gordon D'Arcy in my book. I have been a fan of Dave's for a while now, and he has been unlucky with injuries. Tackled like a demon on Friday and to be fair that was pretty much his mission...though he and Cave are well able to bore holes and exploit space it just wasn't in their remit.

  13. Cave – see above.

  14. Trimble – many heads were scratched at the sight of his name in this team. My head was scratched back in December when I saw him ahead of Gilroy on Ulster's Heineken Cup teamsheet so soon after the Autumn Internationals. His reputation as a poacher helped him at one stage in the second half when he stopped a certain England try but it also hindered him earlier as he was tempted out of his defensive position way too soon and was left stranded. Seems to have gotten himself on Kidney's naughty list.

  15. Henshaw – great future ahead for this lad, he seems to have all the makings of a star. Not quite the finished article, of course, as was shown by his leap in the second half which needed the patented “RK-RK” (Rob Kearney's raised knee) treatment but given he has come from schools rugby to take the Connacht 15 jumper from Gavin Duffy in less than a year I think we can afford him the time he needs!

  1. Varley – If he's behind Sherry in Munster's pecking order, only a bizarre series of injuries will see him grace the Six Nations stage.

  2. Court – This guy couldn't be more between a rock and a hard place if he tried. When test rugby had 22-man squads, his ability to play both sides of the scrum made him the ideal man for the 17 jumper. Then Twickenham happened. But now, he's part of the top front row in the Pro12, so that on top of his experience at test level should give him the nod ahead of Kilcoyne, but you never know.

  3. Fitzpatrick – Didn't even grace the pitch for more than ten-odd minutes, which for a tighthead in this type of match should be seen as an insult, surely? If there were doubts over his fitness he shouldn’t have been anywhere near the match.  The message is clearly “Bent or bust”, and the way things stand right now I know where my money is.

  4. Henderson – Was unlucky not to get the try but it was the correct call. Can't fault a guy for backing himself to score, and he certainly should have a long future with the full Irish setup

  5. Ruddock – Good to see him getting Irish game time, albeit brief on this occasion. As a Leinster fan I definitely want to see him for our big Pro12 trip to Cardiff next week and I'm pretty sure I will.

  6. Boss – bit like Ruddock I hope he ISN'T higher than fourth on Kidney's pecking order, and I don't think he is, even though he could start a Six Nations match no problem.

  7. Madigan – just goes to show how cruelly ironic sport can be...on the same day Leinster fans are looking to Mad-dog as next season's starting Heineken Cup out-half, he gets sent on for the Wolfhounds at full-back, though if Ireland was to get a try in the second half it seemed he would have something to do with it.

  8. Keatley – again, didn't get the purpose of him being there at all. I'm a fan of his, I think he should be starting for Munster more often, but since it seems Kidney's mind is made up that Jackson is his third-choice 10, the way Madigan & Keatley were used in Galway seems like a platitude that falls between two stools.

Overall it was a match we could have won had we turned possession, territory & wind advantage in the first half into enough points. But although we failed in that regard there were still many positives, not least the defence...back row & centres were superb which was borne out by England's only try being found on the furthest blade of grass over in the corner.

The referee Ian Davies was shocking. The “Riverdancing & Morris dancing” line was cringeworthy enough, but if you see a player elbow a scrum-half in the adam's apple after a box-kick, to then admit you didn't get a number is downright embarrassing, especially as Joe Gray was wearing a bright turquoise scrum cap! And it was on or around the 30th minute as well...those ten minutes with the extra man AND the wind could have been very useful.

But there's no point dwelling on that – I reckon we learned more about Kidney's plans on Friday night than we did about the actual players. We can only see how they pan out, starting this Saturday lunchtime in Cardiff. JLP

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