Showing posts with label rugby opinion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rugby opinion. Show all posts

Saturday, July 30, 2022

Some thoughts on the debate surrounding the RFU ruling on "gender participation policy"


Normally I try to use "seeing both sides" as a starting point when it comes to forming an opinion on an issue, but for the "debate" surrounding Friday's RFU ruling it has honestly been very difficult.

At one extreme, the premise seems to be that if you are against the ban, you either "don't care about women's safety" or you are "being too political".

For me, it is obvious that the indifference to safety one is nonsense.
Even in the hyperbolic opinionated world of social media, virtually everyone wants sport to be played as safely as possible, and to briefly reference another issue, I believe this applies to 20m red card supporters too.

As for the "being political" argument, while it is not nonsense IMO, it is not necessarily a bad thing either. If standing up for things like inclusion and basic rights is being political, then so be it. No matter how much we want politics out of sport, their paths will always cross.

Meanwhile at the other extreme there is a premise that if you are for the ban, then you are a bigot/TERF/transphobe. 

In reality, this of course does not apply to all by a long shot, but it definitely does for many of the opinions I have seen expressed. It's hard to deny there is a significant group which clearly doesn't care a jot about women's safety nor sport nor anything else but their own anger and hatred, and the abuse we're seeing in this debate is a fraction of what happens online outside rugby.

So this is why my opinion lands firmly on the "no ban" side. Of course we can talk about safety, of course we can recognize that this is an issue which needs to explore individual cases and scientific data and other such things.

I just don't understand why it all had to be framed as a vote on a certain date to ban certain people, surely knowing the type of attitudes and attacks it was going to bring forward? If anything can be described as "political" in a negative sense, it's that decision.

There are of course many, many figures in the ruggersphere that are far more qualified to talk about the specifics than I am. I just hope that not only can this issue be resolved rationally in the real world, but also that in future similar ones are approached with greater sensitivity. JLP

PS This post was originally written as a Twitter thread but I prefer to express longer thoughts in the form of an article so I transferred it here - cynics might say I "just wanted the clicks" but for this I'm happy to let them think that if they must.

Sunday, July 17, 2022

Online comments after NZLvIRE 3rd test

A selection of the “keyboard warrior” reactions after the full-time whistle of our featured matches of the weekend.

If you’d like to contribute stay tuned to our Facebook page for our “Feel free to leave your thoughts…” posts which show up around full time after Leinster & Ireland matches.


Conor Cronin But for a blip at the start of the second half, we eye better all day! So pleased to see the lads prove how good they are. This is awesome!

Noel Hewson Ah lads what a day


Gav Hegarty My flight took off ten minutes into the second half so I had a very nervous two hours in the air wondering what happened!

Just watched it back tho, we dominated. Every player played interchangeably. Each forward being involved as a switch or a pivot, exceptional stuff.

Can't decide if nz were that bad that we were allowed to play or that we were just too good? Either way we had the plan to win and we executed it 100%.

Beirne my motm, he's really a big game player now and seems to get James Ryan firing also.


Andrew Potts It's something I never expected to see Ireland winning a test series in NZ.

Winning a WC is easier.

A stunning achievement by Farrell and Catt with maybe a little player development work by Lancaster at Leinster.

I firmly believe they as coaches have delivered results greater than the sum of the parts.

The very definition of a good coach.

A stunning day for Irish Rugby


Brian Corr This has been a wonderful series, I remember Talking to an Aussie after the draw (in was it 2012) and he said wow Ireland are a good team. It’s taken a decade but I think this respect has grown a little over this decade.

I think a few things were learned, first is with right preparation the old excuse well they are at the end of a long season is pure shite.

On the other hand what could be said is when travelling so far it takes time to acclimatise, as was seen by all the errors in Irelands first two games. Maybe that’s more a reason the ‘tired at the end of a long season’ is trotted out.

I think Ireland got the rub of the green with cards, I think Porters yellow was ok to the letter of the law as he didn’t step into the tackle, but Aki could easily have seen red, TMO not bringing it to the refs attention🤷🏻‍♂️, with neutral glasses on you could say this equalised the Barrett one in the first test.

Ireland have still so much to improve on which is great, coming off that with no work ons would be a disaster.

NewZealand have some wonderful players the fact Ireland had the moves to bounce them around the field was exceptional work from the coaching team as well as the team on the pitch to implement it.
I am so unbelievably delighted with this performance and look forward to seeing more progress, Ireland are in a great position to develop their game.

The big thing coming in a few months is to see how they’ll change to neutralise SA, you can’t but be excited to see what comes.


Michelle Tobin Peter O'Mahony 💚

But seriously, what a game. Epic defence. Some incredible tackles put in at key moments. No passengers today, warriors.

Sharon Murphy Proud


Colin McConaghie History makers! Was almost more satisfying that the AB’s came fighting back and we could have buckled but we went again, weathered the storm and sealed the win. Have been critical of Andy Farrell but really starting to see what he’s building and he deserves a lot of credit.


Martin Loughrey An incredible performance by the boys in green. Completely dominated the 1st half, NZ had a purple patch at the start of the 2nd, but we kept our composure and closed out the game. Simply outstanding. I rembember after the first few games of Farrell's tenure I wasn't sold on him and felt he was a bit out of his depth, but how wrong was I. He has done incredible things with this team. This win (I believe) brings us to No. 1 in the rankings, and while we've been there before, if I remember correctly, we got there because of matches played by others. Not this time! The IRFU need to get a contract extension sorted ASAP or he'll be the England coach after the WC.


John Willie Conroy Farrell's Ireland team have come of age with skills physicality but more importantly developing the mental side of the game and not cracking under pressure like past Irish teams. Still loads of work to be done and dept added to squad but fantastic work from coaches and team. Ireland Abu 🇮🇪


Chris McDonnell Absolutely magnificent. Only question is why would you take off a tackling machine when you go down to 14 for the yellow.?

Jack O'Dea (reply to Chris McDonnell) give him a ten mins rest. He did make 22 tackles. He needed the rest.


Aaron Grogan What a game of rugby 🏉

Martin Lynch 😆🕺🍾🇮🇪🏉🍺



Many thanks to all who offered opinions.

Look out Monday for our match writeup JLP

Sunday, June 12, 2022

Online comments after Leinster v Bulls

A selection of the “keyboard warrior” reactions after the full-time whistle of our featured matches of the weekend.

If you’d like to contribute stay tuned to our Facebook page for our “Feel free to leave your thoughts…” posts which show up around full time after Leinster & Ireland matches.


Conor Cronin Tonight was tough to watch. It hurts when we've had so many seasons with silverware to come away with nothing this year.

We weren't good enough today. There's not a whole lot else to say. And it feels like 2 weeks ago. But I have faith that the management, coaching staff and players can take a step up, can look at this, learn from it, and be better next year. If we don't want to be seen as a weak side we need to be better next year. They need to be.

Well done to the bulls, best of luck next week.

Cormac Mannion Some awfully basic errors throughout the match. Couple of times, particularly towards the end of the first half we were given simple three pointers but turned them down.

Lack of composure with poor passing and some braindead stuff at the breakdown


Paul Smith Poor performance, we never looked like winning, handling poor most of the game , losing so many line outs 5 metres out, simple knock ons, referee out of his depth, bad decisions I could go on but what's the point ? Just a bitterly dissapointing end to a season that promised so much. Let's hope we can treat it like 2017 and go out and rectify it next season.

Russ Rafter In both of our 2 recent losses, we were beaten by 2 of the best Coaching Brains in the game ... ROG & Jake White. We lost both matches by having our strengths demolished & our weaknesses attacked.


Andrew Potts A very disappointing season that promised so much.

Playing a fantastic brand of rugby but coming up short and some how feeling we have been dragged down a level and losing to teams that are well prepared but willing to give 3 pointers away continually and not being punished for it.

As with LR a few weeks ago and Bulls tonight every thing went right for them and they executed their game plan well.

Leinster left frustrated with three turn over lineout and bobbles and bounces that went away from us.

Need to come up with something in the red zone when the predictable obstruction of the ball comes because we are not getting yellows.

The Bulls ran a tap penalty move and scored while we kicked from under the posts to the touch line and gave them three chances to compete for our ball.

It's like they knew they could force the line out or escape with 3 and did their line out video work.
They ran a short penalty with a variation. Meanwhile we gave up filied position under the sticks and they struck gold with three steals.

You feel Leinster might be cooked for a season or two. A summer in NZ and WC is going to be tough on the squad

Noel Hewson In the long run this might be a good thing. As a die hard fan last month has been tough. However win lose draw you continue to support the team. They have given us many good days so we can endure the rest.


Sean Michaels Unfortunately we picked the wrong game for so many individual players to have an “Off day”. Line out was a complete shambles, yes Bulls closed the gap illegally IMO but we should still be better than that. Should Bulls have got a yellow for cynical infringements, did the ref get a lot of calls wrong in Bulls favour probably, is that the reason we lost, no it wasn’t. Is Ross Byrne a successor to JS, on that performance? A definite no. This is a massive wake-up for both Leinster & Ireland and I think it’ll have a massive rethink about who gets on the plane to NZ

James Griffin Hard luck Leinster Folks. Over to Ulster now. (Seems to me that all the provinces need some big, hairy, nasty, grumpy, powerful forwards to counteract the big men of other sides.)


Kevin OCeallaigh Tough result. Lots to question about the refereeing decisions, but clearly Bulls did their homework on what was acceptable and played to it. More concerning for us was that the Bulls did what La Rochelle did successfully, and Leinster didn’t have a Plan B when it was clear that their Plan A wasn’t working. A lot of work for Cullen and Lancaster over the Summer. Two losses doesn’t make a good team bad, but we will need a new approach to these big SA sides, because simply crashing into them over and over doesn’t work.

Paul McSweeney (reply to Kevin OCeallaigh) Agreed Kevin. We were over powered and didn’t have the on-field ability to adapt. I think other teams now have us figured out and we need an alternative approach for when we get shut down. In the long run we will learn from this and be the most effective and ruthless team on the planet.

One last point. I feel so sad and disappointed. I shouldn’t be as it’s only sport but I can only imagine how the team, squad and Organization is feeling. We were on for the double and end the season with nothing. Bitter. We’ll come back stronger, angrier, single minded and ruthless. Leinster ‘til I die.


Conor O'Shea Forced and unforced errors. Missed Lowe, Keenan and Sexton. Sheehan did well though line outs were poor. Hope Ulster can do it

Ger Ecki (reply to Conor O'Shea) yeah that trio were amazing against La Rochelle....we missed SOB Kearney and Heaslip - players who always delivered in big matches!


Tony Kelly Fix when times up it’s up. Blow the whistle.SA have a home final which is good for Tickets & TV where the the money is & pays the bills. 🤷‍♂️. Soccer in Paris v handball comes to mind. 45 million viewers v 2 million for🇮🇪🤫 €€€€€ makes the World go round. Just Sayin.😎

Pieter Smit Bulls brought a pressure game and did not allow Leinster the space and freedom to play there natural game.


Gerald Williamson The Bulls learned from the La Rochelle v Leinster game. Leinster lacked cohesion in counteracting the Bulls up front. Lineouts were woeful at time. Personally, I was not to impressed with the referee. On the general run of play , the Bulls just about deserved the win.

Louis Hoffman Johnny on the bench was arrogance or stupidity. Management have to take the blame.


Chris McDonnell Ross Byrne is not good enough he's not even the best outhalf in his own family. . The call by cullen to start him cost us the season. If sexton is fit he starts in a semi final. Frawley is far more likely to bring the game to the opposition. At least he'd have a go.

Neil "Keego" Keegan My thoughts are that people shouldn’t post without rewatching the game and being sober 😉


Claire O'Connell Hugely disappointed for the team on tonight’s result, knew it would be a tough one but still thought we’d get it over the line. There’s been a few like this over last couple of years where we’ve just been fairly beaten on the day, overall let’s leave the refs out of it. Easier in other years to put it down to an “off day”…not anymore…too many “off days” in last couple of years in the biggest matches…if Leinster have been “off” in games in past years we always blamed it on a bad day, never crediting the opposition for that for the most part. Now it seems clear that Leinster are for the last three years being faced at the final hurdles by bigger and better teams that find a way to unsettle and destabilise their game. On the plus side I think tonight has shown that the involvement of the SA teams really strengthens the tournament…so much more beneficial than the farcical “contest” with Glasgow last week. Playing against the likes of the Bulls week in week out can only benefit the development of all the provincial teams in the long run

Peter Byrne Surprised we don’t use our bench more, depth is only an asset if you use it.


Many thanks to all who offered opinions.

Look out Monday for our match writeup JLP

Sunday, June 05, 2022

Online comments after Leinster v Glasgow Warriors

A selection of the “keyboard warrior” reactions after the full-time whistle of our featured matches of the weekend.

If you’d like to contribute stay tuned to our Facebook page for our “Feel free to leave your thoughts…” posts which show up around full time after Leinster & Ireland matches.


Conor Cronin A few important things from this game.

1, a bad day last week in no way makes this a bad team

2 I love that in his post match interview James Ryan started my accepting responsibility for the early penalties that led to the Glasgow try

3 watching players sprint the length of the pitch and stop a certain try when you're 50 out more points up shows a real drive and determination to be the best they can be

4 watching Larmour was like seeing him 5 years ago, except that now he had the ability to hold a player up in goal and prevent a try

And finally, do we need a team sheet? It seems that it's just about a Jersey number, doesn't matter who's in it, they're out to do a job and whoever starts the Jersey is gonna do everything he can to make that happen


Paul Smith Played our get of jail fee card in this one 😁. Joking aside, what can you say ? Leinster were absolutely outstanding today. Completely dominated from the 5th minute to the last. I was briefly concerned when Glasgow turned down the penalty and scored the opening try but once Leinster kicked into gear there was only ever going to one winner. All of them put in a shift but you have to feel that Larmour is playing himself back into the Ireland reckoning with his performance in the last 2 games back from injury. He was practically unplayable today, he was everywhere. It doesn't make up for last week but its still a pretty good way to spend a Saturday afternoon.


Derek McGee Hard to draw any meaningful analysis from what in wrestling is known as a "squash job" but one thing I will say is that Andrea Piardi is a very good referee. Twice he's reffed us this season, I think (away at Bath being the other game) & both times he's been excellent. He listens as well as he communicates, which not all refs do, makes clear decisions during play & is also more than willing to use the resources at his disposal when required, instead of just assuming his own omnipotence. Possibly the best referee I've seen across all competitions this season.


Andrew Potts I expected more from Glasgow, but the stupidity of giving away yellow and 14 odd points sort of did them in.

It was also depressing to hear a commentator dumping on Leinster again for coming up short last week.
Leinster went through a block where they beat the English Champions in their back yard, beat the French and Euro Cup champions at home, lost in the last 90 seconds to a French side that was second in the French and European Cup the previous year.

Leinster do not need to changed to much with that level of performance, yesterday they just blew away a side that had two weeks to prepare for a distracted Leinster.

Leinster were so good all the key principles of their play was there. Then the bench started to come on a those lads added value. I thought Ross and Joe were outstanding during their contrabutions and that winger looked hungry


Andrew Bailey More clarity around why we lost weekend. Todays game was of no benefit to anybody and typical of a sub standard league. Glasgow simply let themselves down. Averaging over 40 points at the RDS is no preparation for the business end of the Heineken Cup


Noel Hewson Back on the horse after last week but not much else to say. Very poor display from Glasgow and a little embarrassing for the URC.


Bert McLoughlin Frawley played very well today and put in a lot of effort especially stopping that certain try


Louis Hoffman Larmour back to his best.

Otherwise a stroll in the park


David Ryle Glasgow seemed to threaten from their restarts at the start and there were a lot. Unbelievable performance. Just need to believe in scoring tries in the big games.


Derek Tormey Glasgow need to take a long look at themselves and they definitely need to let Wilson go.


Many thanks to all who offered opinions.

Look out Monday for our match writeup JLP

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Taken by JLP from RDS press box on Nov 16, 2019